THE A.E. HART BOOK THE "RICHARD CALLOWAY FAMILY" IN SPEAKING OF JOHN COLLIER OF 1742 WHO WAS MARRIED TO GRIZZELDA TAYLOR, SAID THAT JOHN OF 1742'S FATHER WAS A JOHN COLLIER A PROSPEROUS PLANTER. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JOHN COLLIER OF 1707. IT SAYS THAT JOHN OF 1707 HAD MANY SONS AND DAUGHTERS, ONE OF WHICH WAS A WILLIAM (THIS WOULD BE WILLIAM OF 1754) MOVED TO TENNESSEE AND WAS LOST TO ALL KNOWLEDGE OF THE KINDRED. THIS IS THE ONLY INDICATION OF WHO WAS WILLIAM OF 1754'S FATHER I HAVE FOUND. HOWEVER IT IS BORN OUT BY THE SEVERAL INDICATORS. FIRST THE QUESTION OF WHY WOULD JOHN OF 1707'S WILL NOT INCLUDE THIS CHILD WILLIAM IF HE WAS IN FACT A CHILD. THE REASON WAS THAT JOHN OF 1707'S WILL WAS DRAWN IN 1746 BEFORE WILLIAM OF 1754 WAS BORN, AS WAS THE CASE OF ANOTHER DOCUMENTED CHILD OF JOHN OF 1707---MARY....WHO THE VIRGINIA COUSINS BOOK SAYS WAS BORN IN 1756. NOTE THAT THIS JOHN OF 1707 DIED IN 1759.
FROM A.E. HART CALLOWAY FAMILY WRITE UP IN LDS LIBRARY.
"The Isaac Collier line,though lnteresting,has no special claim on me,for my descent is from the William Collier family Of 1670, whose members drifted. from the coast to King end Queen county, Va.,and thence to Hanover county,Va , ,where John Collier, grandfather of Mary A.Collier,was born and reared,a son of another John Collier, a prosperous planter with several ,sons,besides numerous daughters
(according to family tradition.) One of the brothers, William, moved to Tennessee and was lost to all knowledge of the kindred."
FROM Colonial Families of Southern States:
"CAPT. JOHN COLLIER (4--1.), of King and Queen Co., and later of Hanover Co., Va.; b. 1707. made will Sept. 26, 1749, pro. 1759, in which he names his sons, Thomas, John, and Joseph, daughters Elizabeth Ironmonger Collier, Frances and Sally; and in which he leaves "to my mother-in-law, Ann Collier, of King and Queen County, the part of that tract that was given me by my [p.150] grandfather,. Charles Collier, of King and Queen." He also names his step sister, Martha Games, and appoints George Morriss andDavid Crawford, executors. He served as an officer in a VirginiaRegiment under Admiral Vernon in the Carthagean expedition, 1740-42; and owned large estates in Isle of Wight and Surry Co.'s. He m. Elizabeth Meredith"
There is preserved the will of John Collier, Jr., of Hanover county, dated September 26, 1749, which names sons Thomas, John, Joseph, daughters Elizabeth Ironmonger Collier, Frances and Sally; "to my mother-in-law Ann Collier, of King and Queen county, the part of that tract that was given me my my grandfather Charles Collier, of King and Queen," sister-in-law Martha Gaines. appoints Geroge Morriss and David Crawford executors. Witnesses Thomas Harris, Stephen Harris and ----------- (name faded).
The original will is in the hands of Mrs. Walter S. Osborne, of Mason county, KY. She is descended from Thomas Collier, oldest son of John. Patrick Henry, as governor of the commonwealth, granted to Thomas Collier for military services, as captain in the Revolution, 3000 acres in Mason Co., KY, on a part of which some of his descendants live. He married Mary Dabney, of Hanover county.
Virginia Soldiers of 1776, Vol. 1 (Mike and Carolyn Chapman http://home.comcast.net/~gochapman/)
Other "John Colliers, Colyers" not placed but noted here for info:
Per Lyman Chalkley's work Vol III -Augusta County Va. court records page 403: 27th October, 1760. John Colyer's will----To wife Sisley; to son Alexander, 400 acres akjoining James Davis; to son John, place testator now lives on (infant); to son Moses, tract called Boyd's Entry; to son Aaron; to son (daughter?)Margaret. Executors, wife Sisley and James Gilmore. Teste: Jno. Wiley. Proved, 20th August, 1765, by witnesses. Cicely (her mark) qualifies, with Jas. Trimble, John Summers.
comment: If this is William of 1715's father, seems strange not mentioned in Chalkley will above.
THIS NEXT JOHN COLYER OF 1722 I HAVE NOT PLACED EXACTLY BUT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A PART OF THE LINE OF MY FAMILY OF JOHN COLLIERS ETC.
Will of John Colyer, Sr. 1722-1765 Oct 27th 1760 Proved 20th August 1765.
(John Colyer was born ca 1722, Augusta Co, VA)
To wife Sisely: to son Alexaner, 400 acres adjoining James David; to
son John, place testor now lives an (infant); to son Moses, , tract
called Boyd's entry; to son Aaron; to son (daughter) Margaret,
(Aaron's and Margaret' shares are not spe cified in the abstract). Esecutors;
Wife Sisly and james Gilmore Teste: Jno Summers. Jno Wiley. Proved
20th August 1765 by the witness. Cicely (her mark) qualifies with Jas.
Trimble. John Summers. WBK 3, 403, Original court records, Chalkey,
Vol III pg 90. John ColyerSr. married ca. 1743 Sisely ca. 1724 VA
1. Alexander ca 1744
2. John, jr. ca 1746
3. Moses ca 1748 m. 8/1/1769 Lunenburg, VA (lived lincoln kY ca
1790's) Nancy Blank (s)
4. Aaron Sr. 1760 Augusta VA; 1842 Lee Co VA; m. ca 1777 Rockbridge
VA; lived Buck Creek, SEminary, Turkey Cove lee Co VA; FRances
(Frankey/Eliz) ca. 1765; ca 1845 Turkey Cove Lee Co VA5. Margaret
ABout the same time that Aaron appears on tax lists in Lee Co VA; Wm.
Randolph Collier, Sr also appears. Then later ca. 1860 Lewis Collier
of LEE Co VA married Valera Collier d/o Martin Douglas Collier;
Lewis's father is given as Isaac Collier.
Sure do need some help with this bunch of Colliers. I have further
info down from these people and will happily share.
Marsil in NM
MRS MARSIL R CREECH
Per Dessie Simmons of Johnson City TN (editor for Johnson City historical society past 18 years (8/1/98) and co editor of book History of Washington Co. TN before 1800) her review of book in her possession by the Daughters of the American Revolution called Roster Of Soldiers Buried in Tn--shows a John Collier born 1732 in Pennsylvania that died in 1792 in TN. He was under Col Randolph's Regiment in North Carolina in 1782 in Randolph Co. N.C. Says that he was married to a Margaret and had sons named Thomas and John, Jr.
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I am always curious when I see "John Collier" had a big plantation and seven sons in North Carolina.
Can you please tell me which county in NC and when.
If it is the John Collier in Guilford/Randolph County during the Rev. War, I want to make sure you don't get yours confused with 11mine." I have been arguing with sources (one live) for years, trying to seperate the two. I have finally done so, to my satisfaction and have documents to prove it. The two John's overlap in time somewhat, but yours stayed and mine moved to Greene County, TN in 1792 So everything after that date should be yours safely.
Mine was the Col. John Collier (1732-1823) born in Harrisburg (Paxtang/Paxton), PA, son of James and Susannah Dougan Collier. He moved to NC after his uncle, Thomas Dougan, Sr., (1763) by 1772 and lived there for 20 years. Any military connection with the Dougan family (and also a Thomas Johnston) will be mine. Col. John was in the NC militia and fought in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. He was also a prosecutor of Tories and was persecuted in return. Fanning and Little burned his house down twice. One night he escaped with three bullet holes through his shirt. His wife was named Margaret.
Col. John also owned a lot of land. Much of it bought after confiscation from the Tories. After the war, much of it was taken away from him. In 1792 he had had enough and started over again in Tennessee.
One lady I corresponded with was convinced that she had been in the large house he had owned which was still standing. That was the large plantation which had been divided among 7 sons. That would be yours. My Col. John, had only two living sons. One died during the persecution of Fanning and LIttle. The sons of my Col. John came to Tennessee with him, John Jr, and Thomas
Mine lived on or near Deep River. The Dougans, his cousins, lived on Deep
River also and are buried in the Bell/Welborn Cemetery in Sophia, Randolph
County, North Carolina.
I have copies of 14 letters written among the members of the Dougan, Collier,
Johnston families from NC and SC back to their family in PA. They range from
1776 to 1828. That, plus some Bible records, county histories, etc. are my
Let me know if I can help you straighten them out. Sincerely,
Brenda Schwall GENEOBUG@aol. com
- A HISTORY OF KENTUCKY AND KENTUCKIANS, BY E. POLK JOHNSON, LEWIS PUBLISHING COMPANY VOL. III, PAGE 1621 PUBLISHED 1912 FOUND IN HARVARD COLLEGE LIBRARY:
"Captain Thomas Collier was a son of John Collier, )r., and Sarah Collier, his cousin and wife. John,Jr..was the son of John Collier, Sr., and a Miss Gaines, his second wife. John Collier, Sr., was the son of Charles and Mary Collier, and Charles Collier was born in Eng land about 1660. and resided in King and Queen county, Virginia."
See Mt. Vernon Ky newspaper article under Charles Colyer, where it is stated that there were 6 brothers to Charles, 7 sons total.