John Colyer, Jr. b. 1 APR 1815 Virginia d. 1 Apr 1855 Bronston Ky of Typhoid fever: Curtis / Colyer family of Somerset Kentucky

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Suffix	Jr.
Birth	1 Apr 1815	Virginia [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Gender	Male
Died	1 Apr 1855	Bronston Ky of Typhoid fever [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Buried	Alexander Chapel Cemetery Bronston Pulaski County Ky [6]
Person ID	I0110	John Colyer family of Somerset Ky
Last Modified	03 Aug 2023

Father	John Colyer, b. 20 Aug 1781, Henry County, VA , d. 18 Aug 1851, Ruth, Ky (reported somewhere from Typhoid fever)
Mother	Polly (Sinclair) St. Clair, b. Abt 1780, d. Abt 1815
Married	Abt 1807
Family ID	F8017	Group Sheet

Family Lucy M. Gover, b. 28 Jan 1822, Pulaski Co., Kentucky , d. 17 Apr 1871

Married 29 Jul 1844 Pulaski County Ky

Children

>	1. John Wesley Colyer, b. Jun 10 1845, Pulaski County Ky , d. 10 Apr 1907
>	2. Eliza Mary Colyer, b. 9 Apr 1851, d. 29 Mar 1939
	3. David Bruce Colyer, b. Feb 07 1854

Last Modified 07 Sep 2013

Family ID F023 Group Sheet

Documents		1855 Pulaski County Ky Deaths: John W Colyer Shows a John W Colyer died Tyhphoid Fever son of John and POLLY. See discussion of John Colyer 1781 first wife
		DNA test of Harold Andrew Colyer and Curtis Colyer match report Harold Andrew Colyer is a documented descendant (great great grandson) of John Colyer born 1781. Curtis Colyer is a documented descendant (great great grandson) of John Colyer born 1815 who lived in Bronston Ky. This DNA test shows that John Colyer born 1815 is son of John Colyer born 1781. This DNA test results in several conclusions. First, the Bronston KY area Colyers are related via John Colyer born 1781 to the Jugornot area of Somerset KY Colyers. Second, based on death record of John Colyer born 1815, that the first wife of John Colyer born 1781 was Polly Sinclair, NOT Martha Minus. Although the John Colyer born 1815 death record only states the mother's first name, it is this researcher's conclusion, that the disclosure of her last name in the newspaper obituary of John Colyer born 1781 son, Charles Granade Colyer, as Sinclair, provides for her full name as Polly Sinclair.
		DNA test comparison Curtis Colyer vs. John Collyer Shows proof of connection via John Colyer born 1781. Curtis Colyer descended from John Colyer Jr. born 1815 and John Collyer was descended from William Colyer born 1807.
		1859 John Long estate gives title to 240 acres on Cumerland River to John Colyer Jr. heirs purchase price was $2400
		1854 John Long estate settlement showing land purchase by John Colyer Jr. See last page of settlement where John Colyer Jr. purchased 240 acres for $2400. The 1867 John Colyer Jr. estate final settlement shows payment to John Long estate of $1967.
		1857 John Colyer JR estate ordered sale Pulaski circuit court John Gover, evidently court appointed adminsitrator of estate, lawsuit to sell 240 acres apparently the property that John Colyer Jr. purchased from John Long on Cumberland river right before both of their deaths for $2400. Evidently was coal land, that evidence shows may later have been purchased by Cornelius Doolin who was in coal biz with John Colyer Sr. Doolin also purchased the coal lands from John Colyer Sr. estate.
		1867 John Colyer Jr estate settlement lived in Bronston KY John Colyer Jr. 1867 final estate accounting settlement (12 years after death) Note heirs evidently file lawsuit over mismanagement by presumed court appointed administrators, the Gover bros.
		1860 John Colyer Jr. land and inherited land interests sold Purchasers Cornelius Doolin, who I suspect got the coal lands, possibly those inherited from John Colyer Sr, and Lindsey Colyer and Samuel Black also listed. Lindsey and Samuel likely only purchased the inherited interest from John Colyer Sr in the Ruth Ky farm by Lindsey and Samuel Black purchased the Blaze Valley farm interest he lived on.
		1863 John Colyer Jr estate vs. Cyrenius Wait land sale It appears that Cyrenius Wait was opposing party in lawsuit of John Colyer Jr estate just like he was in John Colyer Sr estate over what I suspect was Wait's interest in obtaining the Coal properties held by each estate. However in the case of Jr. he had infant child that the courts interceded for.
		1866 Harriet Colyer Black purchase deed 108 acres Blaze Valley from estate of her father, John Colyer Deed says that Cyrenius Wait had held up estate settlement, and heirs of John Colyer file lawsuit against Cyrenius and win, so the court orders sale of land and slaves of John Colyer in March 1859. At the court sale, Harriet Black, purchases 108 acres for $706. Son of John Colyer..Stephen Colyer deceased 1855 and his estate settlment shows John Colyer at death owned 200 acre homeplace on Pitman creek, and 108 acre on Pitman creek waters and 250 acre coal lands. This deed in Blaze Valley was evidently the 108 acres on pitman creek waters that was not the homeplace.
		1859 Pulaski deed to estate of John W. Colyer Jr. finally a deed for a purchase of coal land on Cumberland River in deal made before the death of the seller and the buyer. Here estate of John Long does deed to estate of John W. Colyer Jr. Cyrenius Wait will later file lawsuit to try to get coal land.
		1855 John Colyer Jr. estate accounting Pulaski wills bk4
		1867 John Colyer Jr. estate accounting shows purchase price paid for John Long property on Cumberland River etc. Pulaski wills bk6

Notes

With the recent discovery in 2015 of the death record of a John Colyer in Pulaski County with same dates of birth and death of this John, AND that parents were John Colyer and POLLY----there are some doubts that this John Colyer was the son of John Colyer of 1781. Further casting doubts are the fact that another son of John Colyer 1781 was named John Wesley Colyer (thus a junior) who was born of Lydia Purvis in 1834. However, the 1910 Somerset Republican newspaper obit of Granade Colyer lists all family members, and in fact there was a John of the first marriage and a John of the second marriage. The first was called John, the second was called Wesley.

Could this be the son of another John Colyer (on Lousiville 1850 census as John Colyear) and Mary "Polly" Blevins who were married in Pulaski County in 1806 ? See search results on this site for Polly Blevins. Based on DNA research below, it is concluded this John Colyear who married Polly Blevins in Pulaski County IS NOT the parents of John Colyer 1815.

Is it possible that John Colyer 1781 first wife went by the first name of Polly ? This could be supported IF the John Colyer born 1815 of Bronston was in fact John's 1781 son, since John Colyer born 1815 death record in Pulaski Cty states mother was named Polly. October 21, 2016 testing results of Y-DNA samples of a descendant (great-great grandson) of John Colyer 1815 were completed. They show a match on 110 out of 111 Y-DNA markers so within 5 generations ( ie. circa 1800) to a known descendant of John Colyer born 1781. Since the county death record of John Colyer born 1815 shows that his mother's name was Polly, it is concluded based on DNA evidence that the first wife of John Colyer was NOT Martha Minus or Polly Blevins, but RATHER Polly with unknown last name. The John Colyer 1815 death record does not reveal mother last name. The Somerset Republican newspaper obituary of a son of John Colyer 1781 says his first wife was a Miss Sinclair. Therefore this researcher concludes John Colyer 1781 first wife was named POLLY SINCLAIR. Further, DNA evidence concludes that John Colyer 1815 WAS SON of John Colyer 1781.

Sources

[S05088] Collierj.ftw--Tim Jeffries, Cincinnati OH, Tim Jeffries, Cincinnatti OH.
Date of Import: Aug 6, 1998
[S14494] Alice Colyer Gala.
Date of Import: Sep 19, 1998
[S27813] ColyerV2.FTW.
Date of Import: Sep 30, 1998
[S01710] Kate Smith Collier file # 3 - Walter W. Smith Collection.
KSC 3 - Walter W. Smith Collection.
[S31974] Shelley Strangeland-Miller.

John Colyer, Jr.[1, 2, 3] 1815 - 1855

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